Elon Musk’s Personal Texts With Joe Rogan, Jack Dorsey, and Extra

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Billionaire Elon Musk walks on stage during a T-Mobile and SpaceX joint event on August 25, 2022 in Boca Chica Beach, Texas.

Billionaire Elon Musk walks on stage throughout a T-Cellular and SpaceX joint occasion on August 25, 2022 in Boca Chica Seaside, Texas.
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Elon Musk’s personal texts have been included in new court docket filings on Thursday as a part of the lawsuit introduced by Twitter to make the billionaire purchase the social media firm. And no matter you consider Musk’s bizarre try to again out of the deal to purchase Twitter for $44 billion, the texts present an interesting behind-the-scenes glimpse at twenty first century dealmaking within the tech sector.

The texts, which have been first published on-line by New York Instances reporter Kate Conger, embody exchanges Musk had with podcaster Joe Rogan, Twitter cofounder Jack Dorsey, tech investor Jason Calacanis, and Oracle founder Larry Ellison, amongst loads of others.

A number of the texts are simply pleasant jokes, like when funding banker Michael Grimes texted Musk a YouTube hyperlink to the Lynyrd Skynrd tune “Free Bird.” However different texts can have critical penalties for Musk’s case, like when Elon texts his brother on April 9, 2022 about an concept to create a brand new social media app on a blockchain after already agreeing to affix the Twitter board. Simply two days later, it grew to become public that Elon didn’t need to be on the board anymore.

If nothing else, it’s attention-grabbing to see Musk ask fellow billionaire Larry Ellison if he’s all for serving to take Twitter personal, with Ellison providing up $1 billion prefer it’s the spare change he’d discover in his cushions to make a run for some snacks at 7-11. Musk replies that Ellison ought to make investments $2 billion.

We’ve chosen among the most attention-grabbing texts included within the court docket submitting under, however if you wish to learn all of them they’re obtainable here. Whereas there are many blacked out redactions for belongings you’d count on, like addresses and different figuring out data, there are some curious redactions of total names the place it’s not clear who’s speaking with Musk.

We’ve done our best to compile the text conversations to make sure they’re easy to read but there are times when Musk is texting with two people at the same time. An instance where that might matter is the text exchanges between Elon and his brother Kimbal as well as Elon and Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on April 9, 2022. Elon was both texting his brother about starting a new social media company while also texting with Agrawal about not wanting to serve on the board anymore.

Gizmodo has also embedded screenshots of tweets that only appear as URLs in the court filings.

Antonio Gracias, former director of Tesla (left) and Elon Musk

Antonio Gracias, former director of Tesla (left) and Elon Musk
Photo: Valor Equity Partners / Jonathan Newton/The Washington Post (Getty Images)

March 5, 2022

Elon Musk:

EU passed a law banning Russia Today and several other Russian news sources. We have been told to block their IP address.

Actually, I find their news quite entertaining

Lot of bullshit, but some good points too

Antonio Gracias, Director of Tesla (2007-2021):

This is fucking nuts…you are totally right. 100% agree with you.

We should allow it precisely be we hate it…that is the ping of the American constitution.

Elon Musk:

Exactly

Free speech matters most when it’s someone you hate spouting what you think is bullshit.

Antonio Gracias:

I am 100% with you Elon. To the fucking mattresses no matter what….this is a principle we need to fucking defend with our lives or we are lost to the darkness.

Sorry for the swearing. I am getting excited.

Elon Musk:

Loved “I am 100% with you Elon. To the fucking mattresses no matter what this is a principle we need to fucking defend with our lives or we are lost to the darkness.”


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March 24, 2022

TJ [affiliation unclear]:

Can you purchase Twitter after which delete it, please!? xx

America goes INSANE.

The Babylon Bee bought suspension is loopy. Raiyah and I have been speaking about it as we speak. It was a fucking joke. Why has everybody grow to be so puritanical?

Or can you purchase Twitter and make it radically free-speech?

A lot stupidity comes from Twitter xx

Elon Musk:

Possibly purchase it and alter it to correctly help free speech xx


Jack Dorsey, cofounder of Twitter (left) and Elon Musk

Jack Dorsey, cofounder of Twitter (left) and Elon Musk
Photograph: Joe Raedle (Getty Photographs)

March 26, 2022

Jack Dorsey, cofounder of Twitter:

Sure, a brand new platform is required. It may well’t be an organization. That is why I left.

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Elon Musk:

Okay

What ought to it appear to be?

Jack Dorsey:

I imagine it have to be an open supply protocol, funded by a basis of types that doesn’t personal the protocol, solely advances it. A bit like what Sign has carried out. It may well’t have an promoting mannequin. In any other case you’ve floor space that governments and advertisers will attempt to affect and management. If it has a centralized entity behind it, it is going to be attacked. This isn’t difficult work, it simply needs to be carried out proper so it’s resilient to what has occurred to twitter.

Elon Musk:

Tremendous attention-grabbing concept

Jack Dorsey:

I’m off the twitter board mid Could after which fully out of firm. I intend to do that work and repair our errors. Twitter began as a protocol. It ought to have by no means been an organization. That was the unique sin.

Elon Musk:

I’d like to assist if I’m able to

Jack Dorsey:

I needed to speak with you about it after I used to be all clear, since you care a lot, get it’s significance, and will def assist in immeasurable methods. Again after we had the activist are available, I attempted my hardest to get you on our board, and our board mentioned no. That’s in regards to the time I made a decision I wanted to work to go away, as laborious because it was for me.

Elon Musk:

Beloved “I needed to speak with you about it after I used to be all clear, since you care a lot, get it’s significance, and will def assist in immeasurable methods. Again after we had the activist are available, I attempted my hardest to get you on our board, and our board mentioned no. That’s in regards to the time I made a decision I wanted to work to go away, as laborious because it was for me.”

Do you’ve a second to speak?

Jack Dorsey:

Bout to go out to dinner however can for a minute

[roughly 13 minutes later]

Jack Dorsey:

I believe the principle cause is the board is simply tremendous threat averse and noticed including you as extra threat, which I assumed was fully silly and backwards, however I solely had one vote, and three% of firm, and no twin class shares. Onerous arrange. We are able to focus on extra.

Elon Musk:

Let’s positively focus on extra

I believe its value each attempting to maneuver Twitter in a greater path and doing one thing new that’s decentralized

Jack Dorsey:

It’s seemingly the most suitable choice. I simply have doubts. However open

Elon Musk:

Favored “It’s seemingly the most suitable choice. I simply have doubts. However open”


Mathias Döpfner, CEO of Axel Springer media group (left) and Elon Musk

Mathias Döpfner, CEO of Axel Springer media group (left) and Elon Musk
Photograph: Bernd von Jutrczenka (Getty Photographs)

March 30, 2022

Mathias Döpfner, CEO of Axel Springer media group, which owns Politico and Protocol:

Why don’t you purchase Twitter? We run it for you. And set up a real platform of free speech. Can be an actual contribution to democracy.

Elon Musk:

Fascinating concept

Mathias Döpfner:

I’m critical. It’s doable. Will probably be enjoyable.


Joe Lonsdale, cofounder of Palantir, at TechCrunch Disrupt NY 2013.

Joe Lonsdale, cofounder of Palantir, at TechCrunch Disrupt NY 2013.
Photograph: Brian Ach (Getty Photographs)

April 4, 2022

Joe Lonsdale, cofounder of Palantir:

Excited to see the stake in Twitter – superior. “Again door man” they’re saying ha ha. Hope you’re in a position to affect it. I guess you the board doesn’t even get full reporting or see any report of the censorship selections and little cabals happening there however they need to – the lefties on the board seemingly need believable deniability!

Elon Musk:

Favored “Excited to see the stake in Twitter – superior. ‘Again door man’ they’re saying ha ha. Hope you’re in a position to affect it. I guess you the board doesn’t even get full reporting or see any report of the censorship selections and little cabals happening there however they need to – the lefties on the board seemingly need believable deniability!”


The name of an unknown person communicating with Elon Musk, identified as “self” in court filings.

The identify of an unknown individual speaking with Elon Musk, recognized as “self” in court docket filings.
Screenshot: Documentcloud

April 4, 2022

[Name full redacted]

Congratulations!! The above article was laying out among the issues that may occur: Step 1: Blame the platform for its customers Step 2. Coordinated strain marketing campaign Step 3: Exodus of the Bluechecks Step 4: Deplatforming “However it won’t be simple. It is going to be a battle. Let the battle start.”

It is going to be a fragile sport of letting rightwingers again on Twitter and tips on how to navigate that (particularly the boss himself, in case you’re up forthat) I might additionally lay out the requirements early however have somebody who has a savvy cultural/political view to be the VP of precise enforcement

A Blake Masters sort


Comedian and podcaster Joe Rogan (left) and Elon Musk

Comic and podcaster Joe Rogan (left) and Elon Musk
Photograph: Michael S. Schwartz (Getty Photographs)

April 4, 2022

Joe Rogan, podcaster:

Are you going to liberate Twitter from the censorship comfortable mob?

Elon Musk:

I’ll present recommendation, which they could or might not select to observe


Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal (left) and Elon Musk

Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal (left) and Elon Musk
Photograph: Kevin Dietsch (Getty Photographs)

April 5, 2022

Parag Agrawal, CEO of Twitter:

I’m excited to share that we’re appointing @elonmuskto our board! Via conversations with Elon in latest weeks, it grew to become clear to me that he would deliver nice worth to our Board. Why? Above all else, he’s each a passionate believer and intense critic of the service which is precisely what we want on Twitter, and within the Boardroom, to make us stronger within the long-term. Welcome Elon!

Elon Musk:

Sounds good

Sending out shortly?

Parag Agrawal:

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Elon Musk:

Cool

Parag Agrawal:

Tremendous excited!


Jack Dorsey, cofounder of Twitter (left) and Elon Musk

Jack Dorsey, cofounder of Twitter (left) and Elon Musk
Photograph: Joe Raedle (Getty Photographs)

April 5, 2022

Jack Dorsey:

Thanks for becoming a member of!

Elon Musk:

Completely. Hope I may be useful

Jack Dorsey:

Immensely. Parag is an unbelievable engineer. The board is horrible. At all times right here to speak by means of something you need.

Elon Musk:

When is an effective time to speak confidentially?

Jack Dorsey:

anytime

[roughly 1.5 hours pass]

Elon Musk:

Thanks, nice dialog!

Jack Dorsey:

At all times! I couldn’t be happier you’re doing this. I’ve needed it for a very long time. Received very emotional after I discovered it was lastly attainable.

Elon Musk:

Beloved “At all times! I couldn’t be happier you’re doing this. I’ve needed it for a very long time. Received very emotional after I discovered it was lastly attainable.”

Please be tremendous vocal if there’s something dumb I’m doing or not doing. That may be enormously appreciated.

Jack Dorsey:

I belief you however def will do


Kimbal Musk (left) and Elon Musk

Kimbal Musk (left) and Elon Musk
Photograph: Steve Granitz (Getty Photographs)

April 9, 2022

Elon Musk:

I’ve an concept for a blockchain social media system that does each funds and brief textual content messages/hyperlinks like twitter. You must pay a tiny quantity to register your message on the chain, which is able to reduce out the overwhelming majority of spam and bots. There isn’t a throat to choke, so free speech is assured.

The second piece of the puzzle is an enormous real-time database that retains a duplicate of all blockchain messages in reminiscence, in addition to all message despatched to or obtained by you, your followers and people you observe.

Third piece is a twitter-like app in your telephone that accessed the database within the cloud.

This might be large

Kimbal Musk, Elon’s brother:

I’d like to study extra. I’ve dug deep on Web3 (not crytpo as a lot) and the voting powers are superb and verified. Tons you might do right here for this as nicely

Elon Musk:

I believe a brand new social media firm is required that’s primarily based on a blockchain and consists of funds

Kimbal Musk:

Would have them pay w a token related w the service? You’d have to carry the token in your pockets to submit. Doesn’t must costly it would develop additional time in worth

Should you did use your individual token, you wouldn’t wants promoting it’s a pay to be used service however at a really low value

With scale it is going to be an enormous enterprise purely for the good thing about the customers. I hate commercials

Elon Musk:

Favored “With scale it is going to be an enormous enterprise purely for the good thing about the customers. I hate commercial”

Kimbal Musk:

There are some good adverts on the market. The voting element of customers (solely vote if you wish to) may vote on adverts that add worth. The advertisers must stake a a lot bigger quantity of tokens, however aside from there isn’t a cost for the adverts. It would deliver out the creatives and the adverts can politically incorrect/artwork/activision/philanthropy

Voting rights may additionally crowdsource kicking scammers out. It drives me loopy after I see individuals selling the rip-off that you just’re gifting away Bitcoin. Plenty of unhealthy individuals on the market


Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal (left) and Elon Musk

Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal (left) and Elon Musk
Photograph: Kevin Dietsch (Getty Photographs)

April 9, 2022

Prag Agrawal, Twitter CEO:

You might be free to tweet “is Twitter dying?” or the rest a bout Twitter – nevertheless it’s my duty to let you know that it’s not serving to me make Twitter higher within the present context. Subsequent time we communicate, I’d wish to you present you perspective on the extent of inside distraction proper now and the way it hurting our capacity to do work. I hope the AMA will assist individuals get to know you, to know why you imagine in Twitter, and to belief you – and I’d like the corporate to get to a spot the place we’re extra resilient and don’t get distracted, however we aren’t there proper now.

Elon Musk:

What did you get carried out this week?

I’m not becoming a member of the board. It is a waste of time.

Will make a proposal to take Twitter personal.

Prag Agrawal

Can we discuss?


Bret Taylor, chair of Twitter’s board of directors (left) and Elon Musk

Bret Taylor, chair of Twitter’s board of administrators (left) and Elon Musk
Photograph: Kimihiro Hoshino (Getty Photographs)

April 9, 2022

Bret Taylor, co-CEO of Salesforce and chair of Twitter’s board of administrators:

Parag simply known as me and talked about your textual content dialog. Are you able to discuss?

Elon Musk:

Please count on a take personal supply

Bret Taylor:

I noticed the textual content thread. Do you’ve 5 minutes so I can perceive the context? I don’t at the moment

Elon Musk:

Fixing twitter by chatting with Parag received’t work

Drastic motion is required

That is laborious to do as a public firm, as purging faux customers will make the numbers look horrible, so restructuring ought to be carried out as a non-public firm.

That is Jack’s opinion too.

Bret Taylor:

Can you’re taking 10 minutes to speak this by means of with me? It has been about 24 hours because you joined the board. I get your level, however simply need to perceive in regards to the sudden pivot and ensure I deeply perceive your perspective and the trail ahead

Elon Musk:

I’m about to take off, however can discuss tomorrow

Bret Taylor:

Thanks


Jason Calacanis, tech investor and podcaster (left) and Elon Musk

Jason Calacanis, tech investor and podcaster (left) and Elon Musk
Photograph: Duffy-Marie Arnoult (Getty Photographs)

April 14, 2022

Jason Calacanis, tech investor and podcaster:

It is best to elevate your supply

$54.21

The proper counter

You might simply clear up bots and spam and make the service viable for a lot of extra customers —Eradicating bots and spam is so much simpler than what the Tesla self driving group is doing (primarily based on listening to the final edge case assembly)

And why ought to blue examine marks be restricted to the elite, press and celebrities? How is that democratic?

The Kingdom would love a phrase…

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Again of the envelope… Twitter income per worker: $5B rev / 8k workers = $625K rev per worker in 2021 Google income per worker: $257B rev / 135K worker = $1.9M per worker in 2021 Apple income per worker: $3658 rev/ 154k workers = $2.37M per worker in fiscal 2021

Twitter income per worker if 3 ok as a substitute of 8k: $58 rev / 3k workers = $1.66m rev per worker in 2021 (extra business commonplace)

Elon Musk:

Emphasised “Again of the envelope… Twitter income per worker: $5B rev / 8k workers = $625K rev per worker in 2021 Google income per worker: $2578 rev / 135K worker = $1.9M per worker in 2021 Apple income per worker: $365B rev/ 154k workers $2.37M per worker in fiscal 2021″

Insane potential for enchancment

Jason Calacanis:

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Day zero

Sharpen your blades boys

2 day per week Workplace requirement20% voluntary departures

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I imply, the product street map is past clearly

Premium characteristic abound- and twitter blue has precisely zero

What committee got here up with the checklist of canine shit options in Blue?!? It’s value paying to show it off!

Elon Musk:

Yeah, what an insane piece of shit!

Jason Calacanis:

Possibly we don’t discuss twitter on twitter DM [laughing emoji]

Elon Musk:

Was simply pondering that haha

Nothing mentioned there up to now is something totally different from what I mentioned publicly.

Btw, Parag continues to be on a ten day trip in Hawaii

Jason Calacanis:

No cause to chop it brief… in your first tour as ceo

(!!!)

Shouldn’t he be in a battle room proper now?!?

Elon Musk:

Does doing occasional zoom calls whereas consuming fruity cocktails on the 4 Seasons rely?

Jason Calacanis:

[thinking emoji]


Joe Lonsdale, cofounder of Palantir, at TechCrunch Disrupt NY 2013.

Joe Lonsdale, cofounder of Palantir, at TechCrunch Disrupt NY 2013.
Photograph: Brian Ach (Getty Photographs)

April 16, 2022

Joe Lonsdale:

Haha even Governor DeSantis simply known as me now with concepts how that can assist you and outraged at that board and saying the general public is rooting for you. Let me know in case you or someone in your facet needs to speak w him. Can be enjoyable to see you in case you guys are round this weekend or the subsequent few days.

Elon Musk:

Haha cool


Larry Ellison, founder of Oracle (left) and Elon Musk

Larry Ellison, founding father of Oracle (left) and Elon Musk
Photograph: Joshua Blanchard (Getty Photographs)

April 20, 2022

Elon Musk:

Any curiosity in collaborating within the Twitter deal?

Larry Ellison, founding father of Oracle:

Sure…in fact [thumbs up emoji]

Elon Musk:

Roughly what greenback measurement? Not holding you to something, however the deal is oversubscribed, so I’ve to scale back or kick out some individuals.

Larry Ellison:

A billion…or no matter you suggest

Elon Musk:

No matter works for you. I’d suggest perhaps $2B or extra. This has very excessive potential and I’d slightly have you ever than anybody else

Larry Ellison:

I agree that it has big potential… and it will be a number of enjoyable

Elon Musk:

Completely 🙂


Comedian and podcaster Joe Rogan (left) and Elon Musk

Comic and podcaster Joe Rogan (left) and Elon Musk
Photograph: Michael S. Schwartz (Getty Photographs)

April 23, 2022

Joe Rogan:

I REALLY hope you get Twitter. Should you do, we should always throw a hell of a celebration.

Elon Musk:

[100 emoji]


Jason Calacanis, tech investor and podcaster (left) and Elon Musk

Jason Calacanis, tech investor and podcaster (left) and Elon Musk
Photograph: Duffy-Marie Arnoult (Getty Photographs)

April 23, 2022

Jason Calacanis, tech investor and podcaster:

It seems like everybody needs the identical actual factor, and they are going to be affected person and understanding of any adjustments… Twitter Stans space affordable, good religion bunch

These dipshits spent a years on twitter blue to offer individuals precisely— Nothing they need!

Splitting income with video creators tike YouTube might be big unlock

We may actually give video creators 100% of their advert income as much as $lm then do cut up

Elon Musk:

Completely

Jason Calacanis:

5 Groups: 5 Northstar metrics 1. Legacy Opps: uptime, velocity 2. Membership group: take away bots whereas getting customers to pay for “Actual Identify Memberships” $5 a month $50 a yr. Contains 24 hours response to customer support 3. Funds: % of customers which have linked a checking account/made a deposit 4. Creator Crew:get creators to publish to twitter first (musicians, YouTubers, tiktokers, and many others) by giving them the most effective % cut up within the business (and promotion) 5. Transparency Crew: make the Algorithm & Moderation comprehensible and honest

I believe these are the 5 crucial items… everybody agrees to “yr one” dash, together with coming again to workplaces inside the first 60 days (except given particular dispensation for extraordinary contribution)

Onerous Reboot the group

Appears like nobody is setting priorities ruthlessly… 12,000 engaged on no matter they need? No tasks being cancelled?!

Transfer HQ to Austin, hire gigafactory extra area

Elon Musk:

Wish to be a strategic advisor if this works out?

Jason Calacanis:

100%

Board member, advisor, no matter… you’ve my sword

Elon Musk:

Beloved “Board member, advisor, no matter… you’ve my sword”

Jason Calacanis:

If 2, 3 or 4 unlock they’re every 250b+ markets

Funds is $250-500b, YouTube/creators is $250b+

Membership nobody has tried actually…. So laborious to estimate. 1-5m paid members perhaps @ $50-100 a yr? 250k company memberships @ 10k a yr?

Elon Musk:

You’re a thoughts reader

Jason Calacanis:

Put me within the sport coach!

[laughing emoji]

Twitter CEO is my dream job


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